So what do you guys think about Trijicon having to remove the bible versus from the sights of our optics?
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Trijicon to Remove Bible Codes from Military Rifle Sights
Decision Made in Response to Major International
News Story Brought to Light by MRFF
From the ABC article below:
Earlier today, Gen. David Petraeus, who commands CentCom,
which oversees U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, told a
D.C. thinktank that the company’s practice was “disturbing…
and a serious concern for me” and field commanders.
He said there had been considerable discussions within the
Department of Defense about how to deal with Trijicon’s practice.
Trijicon, the gunsight maker that has imprinted Bible verse numbers on its scopes, has announced that it will no longer imprint the verses on the sides of scopes intended for the U.S. military, and will also provide clients with the kits to remove the Bible verse numbers from existing scopes.
An ABC News report earlier this week revealed that the Michigan-based company, which has a contract to provide up to 800,000 scopes to the U.S. military, prints references to New Testament chapters and verses in code next to the model numbers of its scopes. The scopes are used by the U.S. Marine Corps and Army in Iraq and Afghanistan, and by U.S. allies in those countries, and for the training of Afghan and Iraqi troops.
I really don’t see why this was ever an issue to begin with.
Whatever.
what idiot put them there in the first place?
Why would Religion want to associate itself with War and killing?
I think it was a really bad Idea to put them on there in the first place.
Having the verses on the sights really does make it look like we are engaged in a holy war, and I really don’t care which religion comes out on top.
They should remove them, they knew full well that it was inappropriate to put them there in the first place. Bible verses on gunsights, sure, and then we can print them on cigarettes and sextoys too.
They should have known better in the first place, than to print them on sights headed for the U.S. Military. Ecclesiastes teaches us that there is a season for everything, and also a time for restraint. Had they read the bible they love to quote, they’d know that God wouldn’t approve of their sneaky actions.
Another effort to remove God from American life. Its pathetic. They all should be ashamed of themselves. In the middle of a firefight I know for a fact that, even if i were not a Christian, then i would want some sort of comfort or hope. But these idiots never have to put their lives on the line so they don’t know what that is like.
fine with me. i sincerely doubt the feds didn’t know they were there when they gave trijicon the contract. i wouldn’t care if an individual soldier wanted it on there, but for them to be distributed to soldiers of all religions and backgrounds, seems a little inconsiderate.
Who cares, most of the people that make a big deal over this aren’t even in the military, let alone used a Trijicon sight.
I think it is great. You see, we don’t live in a theocracy, we live in a Democratic Republic. The 1st Amendment gives us both freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
True Patriot! and the rest of them with your head in the sand, do you not see that we are in a war about religion? not a ” holy’ war because there is nothing holy about it and when Obama said that we are not and never were a “Christian nation” and he can not yet find a church home, all the while saying he is a christian it lends suspicion that he may very well be a muslim! This is not the first time that the Islamic movement has lied to infidels or pretended to be something else. They have had spies among us for some time now!We can not trust or believe in him anymore!
I agree with the guy above me. This isn’t Afghanistan or Iraq…it is America…and US tax dollars should not be used to build up or tear down religion.
These verses are Trijicon’s way of saying a prayer for the user, the soldier, in combat.
Whether you believe in God, or not, every little advantage helps, correct?
General order 1 for Centcom is that no religious proselytizing or anything that comes close to it is allowed. For us to be using equipment with Christian biblical passages violates that regulation. It also put our relationship with our allies in the region at risk. The “Christian Crusader” is a figure of near-mythic evil and threat in the region, and our standing with the Afghan people is based on us not being there to fight a holy war.
Also, government equipment contracts normally include a description of what is allowed to be engraved or stamped on the equipment. Normally, this is the item’s name, NSN, a serial number, and a manufacturer’s mark. These bible codes violated the contract terms.
It is a total none issue.
No one even knew they were there, until after the ABC report.
Those idiots quoted as saying the Taliban and al quada were using it as a recruiting tool.
Just how were they doing that, when even US servicemen, did not know about those letters ?
I’d have liked to see Trijicon say ” screw it ” you want our sights, then you take them the way we have manufactured them for 30 years.
Only nutters on the far left and far right care about this at all, no one else does.